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monty
June 07-2009, 12:42 AM
Can you run a chainguide without them?
Anybody do this?
Recommendations?
Cheers.

ohno mojo
June 07-2009, 10:19 AM
use one of these
old iscg/iscg05 depending on tabs of your guide


http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=11453

monty
June 07-2009, 10:32 AM
Nice one man!:)

Kona Rab
June 07-2009, 02:20 PM
Some chain devices are designed to run behind the BB. Have a look at the E13 DRS (http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=12768)

I have one on my Banshee XXX and they work a treat

monty
June 07-2009, 08:17 PM
Aye, one of them would probably more secure, and less parts to break when it all goes wrong! But, when I get a new bike(:rolleyes:)then it'l be nice to be able to take the chainguide on and be able to bolt her onto my ISCG tabs and away I go :p

Damn things cost a fortune though!
Anyone know of any good deals etc!?

Kona Rab
June 07-2009, 10:38 PM
They come with ISCG mount holes as well so you can mount them either way.

They are that price everywhere unless you can pick one up 2nd hand.

a2themfk
June 07-2009, 11:01 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=110390557120

downhilldude
June 07-2009, 11:08 PM
sure if you don't have the mount holes do you just not split the bottom bracket and do away with one of the BB spacers and put that in it's place ?

Lwatson
June 07-2009, 11:12 PM
sure if you don't have the mount holes do you just not split the bottom bracket and do away with one of the BB spacers and put that in it's place ?

Read the thread before posting.

downhilldude
June 07-2009, 11:17 PM
Read the thread before posting.

Oh. I should think before posting.lol:D

monty
June 08-2009, 12:06 AM
E13 definitely the way to go?
Whatabout blackspire, gamut etc.?

TrixR4kidz
June 08-2009, 08:50 AM
I put a Blackspire Dualie on my Marin hardtail as the chain kept bouncing about, and came off several times every ride (not too confidence inspiring on rough trails or ripping at a jump). At the time I regarded it as the best 70 dabs i'd spent on a bike. I've had no chain moments since.

With hindsight though, I get a single ring version as I only ever use 1 front ring anyway. It's probably a tad heavier than the E13, but saving cash outweighs (supa-pun! :p) saving weight for me.

Kona Rab
June 08-2009, 01:51 PM
Gamut only do a Single front ring at the mo. Just got a Blackspire one to try on my new hard tail so will have to see wat way it works out. But the E13 one is a really good job and that one at £35 on fleebay is a steel. You could always buy a new smaller bash guard and still save a few bob

tinkerhil
June 08-2009, 02:38 PM
Rab that chain device was on my glory and it never dropped the chain once. Even riding Rostrevor.......

Kona Rab
June 08-2009, 06:30 PM
Sounds spot on to me Paddy thanks again. Just need to get a set of forks and the frame re-sprayed and I'll have this hardtail sorted.

monty
June 08-2009, 08:14 PM
Aye, I'll check out all the recommendations and keep an eye on Ebay, might take thon E13.
As another question, could I get away with a 34-40(38 if I was going for the Blackspire) chainring setup? What sort of differences, if any will this make? Would 40t be too big for a DH/DJ/everything:) bike?
Thanks again.

Kona Rab
June 08-2009, 08:42 PM
Aye, I'll check out all the recommendations and keep an eye on Ebay, might take thon E13.
As another question, could I get away with a 34-40(38 if I was going for the Blackspire) chainring setup? What sort of differences, if any will this make? Would 40t be too big for a DH/DJ/everything:) bike?
Thanks again.

Monty personally I would stick on a 36t middle ring and loose the big ring keep the granny at 22t, if your just gonna be using it for trails. Anything bigger than that and you'll prob find yourself in the granny ring alot. But if your gonna be riding on the road a lot then you might want to change both rings

monty
June 08-2009, 10:45 PM
KRab, That one on ebay, seems tempting!
Would you happen to know what model it is?
SRS?

trailfox
June 09-2009, 12:26 AM
You want My Saracen Havoc.
You know yourself it has rarely ever dropped a chain over the past 2 years (about 3 times max altogether I think) and it has no chain device :-) rostrevor and all! Its just the build quality and well thought through frame design that youd expect from saracen.
£275 and your problems are sorted (you'll get better brakes too.. you know you love the matching goodridge/maxxis bling ;-))

monty
June 09-2009, 12:32 AM
You want My Saracen Havoc.
You know yourself it has rarely ever dropped a chain over the past 2 years (about 3 times max altogether I think) and it has no chain device :-) rostrevor and all! Its just the build quality and well thought through frame design that youd expect from saracen.
£275 and your problems are sorted (you'll get better brakes too.. you know you love the matching goodridge/maxxis bling ;-))

Lol:rolleyes: Yes, build quality, frame design.. Saracen:eek:! You what!?
I think you should ride a bit harder mate :p

Anyway, some people have school tomorrow! I'm away to bed!

Kona Rab
June 09-2009, 12:41 AM
from looking at the pic on fleebay. It looks to be a DRS. Dual ring chain device. Drop to guy a question just to comfrim it.

trailfox
June 09-2009, 01:30 PM
Lol:rolleyes: Yes, build quality, frame design.. Saracen:eek:! You what!?
I think you should ride a bit harder mate :p
Sure, but you still cant escape the fact that I'll still be over-taking you as your at the trackside fixing your chain for the third time of the run :p
I dont trust my suspension anymore, dampning has gone in both ends and im really waiting her to go tbh.
Im only slow when im in a big group, Get me a working hardtail (not yours, crappy narrow bars) or an sx trail and then you can make your hurtful accusations :)

monty
June 09-2009, 08:20 PM
Sure, but you still cant escape the fact that I'll still be over-taking you as your at the trackside fixing your chain for the third time of the run :p
I dont trust my suspension anymore, dampning has gone in both ends and im really waiting her to go tbh.
Im only slow when im in a big group, Get me a working hardtail (not yours, crappy narrow bars) or an sx trail and then you can make your hurtful accusations :)

Bring it on :) Give me an SX Trail and be ready to revise my arse any day:p

Lol, I would quite like a working hardtail too! Although, by the start of the summer shes gonna have new front disc, new pads(front and back), a rear brake lever that's not held together by elastic bands(although I am awful proud of that!:D) a new bottom bracket(it's time is truly up, a year of tightening it after every ride is starting to get to me!), a chain device, and possibly wider bars and shorter stem.
But feck, I need some money first!::yikes::

Lwatson
June 09-2009, 10:00 PM
Lol, I would quite like a working hardtail too! Although, by the start of the summer shes gonna have new front disc, new pads(front and back), a rear brake lever that's not held together by elastic bands(although I am awful proud of that!:D) a new bottom bracket(it's time is truly up, a year of tightening it after every ride is starting to get to me!), a chain device, and possibly wider bars and shorter stem.
But feck, I need some money first!::yikes::

Monty, im sure if you ask about you could pick up stuff fairly cheap of guys on here... i have loads of brakes and stuff i dont use!!

What lever do you need?

penguinni
June 09-2009, 10:05 PM
I just happen to have a frame, stem, seatpost clamp, SLX rear AND a red Lizard Skin chainstay protector!;)

trailfox
June 09-2009, 10:18 PM
Bring it on :) Give me an SX Trail and be ready to revise my arse any day:p

Lol, I would quite like a working hardtail too! Although, by the start of the summer shes gonna have new front disc, new pads(front and back), a rear brake lever that's not held together by elastic bands(although I am awful proud of that!:D) a new bottom bracket(it's time is truly up, a year of tightening it after every ride is starting to get to me!), a chain device, and possibly wider bars and shorter stem.
But feck, I need some money first!::yikes::

Oh I never said I was faster, just that there is inevitable chance that your GT will fail you in keeping your chain were it should be wouldn't be very helpful :)
Ehh revision? No thanks, Ive had enough of that..
Im just 'taking it easy' for now, not because im wrecked or giving up in competing (which I have BTW ;-)) but im not replacing any major parts anymore- Im getting the funds together with these freelance jobs and its looking like early 2010 might be realistic on the new bike front.
If my current steed fails before then I'll just build more trails and take pictures. tbh I think Im getting a better builder than I am a rider now lol

monty
June 09-2009, 10:25 PM
:D, cheers Penguin but sadly none of them are of use to me! Well, unless you could do me an exceptional deal on the mech as I'm currently running a bent one!
Lindsay, a hope mini lever, had a crash in Moneyscalp, was in too high a gear in the top section, was pedalling like a mad man to get the gears shifting.. and then my pedal got caught on a nice big rock in the rock garden and when I got up and checked out the bike, my lever was completely out of the 'socket'.
Seem to have retrieved all the parts, minus something springy :(, whatever it is that keeps the lever in it's place when it's not being pulled and gets the lever back into it's placed after you've pulled it.. Maybe no.11? http://www.hopetech.com/database/mini_lever_exp.gif
You wouldn't happen to have a 203mm disc kicking around :)?

@Jonny.
2010! You lucky man! I'm going to be darn lucky if I can get one before I'm 15/16.. so 2011/12! Although, if I grow any more(which sadly seems to unlikely cos I haven't in ages:(!) the Ruckus is going to be impossible to ride on the roads! Sore atm and with a shorter stem it'l be worse :(

trailfox
June 10-2009, 12:02 AM
Well thats what Im hoping, im thinking second hand though so up to £1000 max (or more.. just depending on how long I am willing to not spend for :-)).
Knowing me it'll be later on next year. There may also be the vague chance that Ill get a small amount of funding but thats unlikely. Meh, I'll just have to see.
Wider bars might be a bit more comfortable on your bike, it felt a little squashed when you had it at alta..

monty
June 13-2009, 10:51 PM
Got the DRS of ebay. 41 all in :)
Sure I'll need one of those bb to iscg adaptor jobs?(like ohno mojo recommended)

Kona Rab
June 14-2009, 03:04 AM
No you might not need one. Some of those E13's mount directly in behind the BB.

Your prob just missing the Circlip off the brake lever they pop out all the time if you hit them in a crash. I had a few kicking about but sold them with the brakes a couple of months back.