Commencal furious

[mark]

Just wondering if any one has one
and what are they like

Thanks mark

[mc]

Yes.
It's nice.

[mark]

how nice

[mc]

Very nice :-)



Seriously though, I like mine.
Not the ideal bike for out and out downhill, but the perfect bike for downhills where you prefer to be in the air rather than on the ground. And it's pretty much perfect for shore.
I just need to work on the balls to increase my air time...

[mark]

Like the look of these bikes
Thinking of growing a pair myself and learning how to jump
And trying some dh

[G-kenny]

Hey mark i got your Pm over the weekend and forgot to reply.

I went for the Commencal Supreme 1 and i love it. It handles the jumps well, easy to throw about fast and smooth down the hills and actually doesnt pedal to badly up the hill either.

[mark]

thanks

G did you try the furious

[G-kenny]

thanks

G did you try the furious

Nop mark i didnt, the reason i went for the supreme was that i read alot about the furious being more freeridy and generally i am mostly a dh man. i know the furious would have dont the job fine i just made the choice for the supreme. if you are after one get down to Helens tower sometime and take a ride o her.

[mark]

Cheers
I'll have to call in rc for a look

Hopefully catch Steve mad to get rid of stock

[pwadjo]

To me it seems like a bike for which there isn't really a purpose. Its not a Dh bike and its not an Xc bike. Freeride is really a marketing term made up to sell bikes so i dont think its one of those either.

[jimjam]

Its not a Dh bike and its not an Xc bike. Freeride is really a marketing term made up to sell bikes

What's an sx trail then? I think the term freeride trips off the tongue a bit easier than "7 inch bike with 67 degree H A which isnt a downhill bike but not an xc bike either bike".

There are times when a dh bike is overkill and an xc bike won't cut it...and a five inch trail bike just isnt right either. Have you got a better name?

[trailfox]

Id say a 'freeride' bike is ideal for most trails in NI if you side more towards going fast downhill rather than uphill, my cheap havoc has 130mm all round and Ive found it lacking travel/slacker angles in the champs courses in rostrevor or at proper speed.
Im actually looking an sx trail/demo7 as my bike to replace the havoc (decided id not go for a hardtail and just take it easy on the bike until I get the funds for a 2nd hand). The havoc is a great bike to learn on because of the short travel and climbs reasonably well without supertackys but Im finding it a little limiting when the run gets really rough and I dont want a full on DH rig because a) Im not a pinner b)they're a beast to climb with c)I like the tight and technical stuff over just sheer plowing through a rock garden and hucking off the nearest 15 foot cliff *cough* monty's headtube *cough* ;-) so a nimbler bike seems logical.

[johnny]

What's an sx trail then? I think the term freeride trips off the tongue a bit easier than "7 inch bike with 67 degree H A which isnt a downhill bike but not an xc bike either bike".

There are times when a dh bike is overkill and an xc bike won't cut it...and a five inch trail bike just isnt right either. Have you got a better name?

lol:rolleyes::D
he's got a good point, seen these agruements before...

[pwadjo]

What's an sx trail then? I think the term freeride trips off the tongue a bit easier than "7 inch bike with 67 degree H A which isnt a downhill bike but not an xc bike either bike".



You are not going to pedal a furious all day, it will be as quick to push it up the hill as pedal and not as tiring and when it comes to go back down again its not as good as a downhill bike. Like someone went out and made a dh bike with the wrong angles.

I could ride anything as fast on my prophet as i could on a furious and it would be a lot easier on the legs getting up.


There are times when a dh bike is overkill and an xc bike won't cut it...and a five inch trail bike just isnt right either. Have you got a better name?

How often does that actually happen? I havent had a dh bike or an xc bike for a while just a 5.5 inch Am bike and its perfect for everything. And I ride Ravensdale every second day.

[Aaron]

I had a Furious for near on two years, sold it in March and bought a Orange Alpine 160 and have never looked back!! the furious is a good bike, but for the trails we have here in NI the alpine kicks its ass!!! BIG TIME!!!

[jimjam]

I could ride anything as fast on my prophet as i could on a furious and it would be a lot easier on the legs getting up.

How often does that actually happen? I havent had a dh bike or an xc bike for a while just a 5.5 inch Am bike and its perfect for everything. And I ride Ravensdale every second day.

Well, if ravensdale had 10 min descents which featured large jump after large jump after large jump with many tight technical features, and where flat out speed wasn't an issue you might find that your AM bike wont last very long. Or to put it another way - just because a type of bike doesnt exactly make perfect sense for you in this wee country doesnt automatically mean it's a made up marketing fantasy contrived to sell bikes.

[mc]

The thing with the Furious, is it's suited only for a pretty small group of people.

I'd hazard a guess that there's been far more sold on the fact it's CG's plaything, than the actual geometry of the bike.
It's designed purely for gravity assisted fun.
If you want flat out downhill, buy a supreme DH, or anyother DH bike.
If you want to pedal up hill, and maximise fun on the way down, get a Supreme, SX-trail or similar.

However, if you want something you can chuck downhills, of drops, over jumps, and have fun whilst doing it, without worrying about if you're the fastest, or if the bike is about to break, then the Furious is for you.

[pwadjo]

Well, if ravensdale had 10 min descents which featured large jump after large jump after large jump with many tight technical features, and where flat out speed wasn't an issue you might find that your AM bike wont last very long. Or to put it another way - just because a type of bike doesnt exactly make perfect sense for you in this wee country doesnt automatically mean it's a made up marketing fantasy contrived to sell bikes.

You have obviously never been to ravensdale then, easily 10 min descents and its probably one of the most technical tracks in the country with very few flat out bits.
The main thing i dont get about it is the fact that it weighs the same as a dh bike and is made for coming down hill but doesn't have the angles for it thats all. The guy is asking for advice so my advice is buy a Dh bike if thats what you are into or buy a 5" bike if you like pedaling around

[mark]

have a 5" bike just looking for something different
New to mtb and looking for a better buzz and try more

[jimjam]

You have obviously never been to ravensdale then, easily 10 min descents and its probably one of the most technical tracks in the country with very few flat out bits.
The main thing i dont get about it is the fact that it weighs the same as a dh bike and is made for coming down hill but doesn't have the angles for it thats all. The guy is asking for advice so my advice is buy a Dh bike if thats what you are into or buy a 5" bike if you like pedaling around

As awesome as I'm sure ravensdale is I doubt the people at whistler blackcomb are getting too nervous. I didn't mean technical in the sense we would use it here - I meant northshore stylee stuff.

Personally speaking I wouldn't want to be doing this

on my prophet, nor do I think a DH bike would be ideal. (Actually wouldn't matter what bike I'd be hitting nothing on it). I'm just disagreeing with your statement that freeride is a made up word to sell bikes - it might mean nothing here but it sure as sh*t means a lot to people in BC/Washington etc.

There should be something between AM bikes and DH bikes for people who want to ride big stuff but don't care about going flat out. My DH bike makes most descents seem pretty boring really, and it's only interesting/fun to ride when your going flat out. Not always a good thing. It has an annoying tendency to just flatten everything. On the flip side most AM bikes I've ridden are too steep and don't inspire much confidence in me personally (although I have finally found one I like).

Something with a higher bb and slightly steeper ha is obviously gonna have different manners to a dh bike, even if it has 8 inches of travel it'll use it differently. The furious is a strange beast for sure but it sort of makes sense to me, I almost bought one. The only thing that made me hold off was the fact that there were so many other similar bikes out there that seemed to make more sense in different areas. Different strokes for different folks.

[ciaran-77]

Orange Alpine 160

That got some write up in dirt this month.

[Saucepan]

Where is Ravensdale ? 10 min Descents yes please

[Steveb]

MC is about right. It's just a bike for having fun on. I've always seen it as a machine a DHer would ride when they're just messing about in the woods, not racing. I'm no DHer but i do know bikes (no, really, I do!) and I'd say the angles are perfect for it's intended purpose. CG genuinely did have a huge input into it, if you want to tell him he's wrong, be my guess.

If you want a bike that sticks to the ground like mud, is incredibly stable at speed, has immense grip in corners and says Commencal on the downtube, you'd get a Supreme DH. If you want a bike that is stable & very maneuverable in the air, good at slow speed technical riding (shore etc.) able to do DH runs with ease and immensely strong, then the Furious is a serious contender.

Is it too much bike for NI? Depends on the rider. Ben regularly smokes everyone at the winter series on his MkIII, GOB still puts in good times on his hardtail, but that don't mean everyone in the land with anything over a 5" trail bike is riding the wrong machine. It's all bout personal choice and what takes your fancy.

I have on the way to me an 09 Furious in large, brand new frame, bits on the frame have seen a few hours riding, rrp is £2300, this will be £1500 financed and with a full warranty.

Anyone want it?

[Steveb]

MC is about right. It's just a bike for having fun on. I've always seen it as a machine a DHer would ride when they're just messing about in the woods, not racing. I'm no DHer but i do know bikes (no, really, I do!) and I'd say the angles are perfect for it's intended purpose. CG genuinely did have a huge input into it, if you want to tell him he's wrong, be my guess.

If you want a bike that sticks to the ground like mud, is incredibly stable at speed, has immense grip in corners and says Commencal on the downtube, you'd get a Supreme DH. If you want a bike that is stable & very maneuverable in the air, good at slow speed technical riding (shore etc.) able to do DH runs with ease and immensely strong, then the Furious is a serious contender.

Is it too much bike for NI? Depends on the rider. Ben regularly smokes everyone at the winter series on his MkIII, GOB still puts in good times on his hardtail, but that don't mean everyone in the land with anything over a 5" trail bike is riding the wrong machine. It's all bout personal choice and what takes your fancy.

I have on the way to me an 09 Furious in large, brand new frame, bits on the frame have seen a few hours riding, rrp is £2300, this will be £1500 financed and with a full warranty.

Anyone want it?

[jimjam]

I'm no DHer but i do know bikes (no, really, I do!) and I'd say the angles are perfect for it's intended purpose.

But you ride "AM Jeycore XC FR Ultralite" on a dh bike don't you?........ my brain just shat itself. Stupid bikes.

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[Steveb]

Your right, i do, which either makes me a god, or an idiot.

[jimjam]

O r some sort of idiot god hybrid .

[After_You]

Maybe its called the Furious because it produces such heated debates on the interweb?

[Steveb]

It's named after CG's marketing & promotions agency, The Furious Agency. (http://www.furiousagency.com/)

(BTW- He calls it a marketing and promotions agency, to you and I it's a front for BIG pissups.)

[nathan-stp-0]

gotta love the furious

[monty]

Id say a 'freeride' bike is ideal for most trails in NI if you side more towards going fast downhill rather than uphill, my cheap havoc has 130mm all round and Ive found it lacking travel/slacker angles in the champs courses in rostrevor or at proper speed.
Im actually looking an sx trail/demo7 as my bike to replace the havoc (decided id not go for a hardtail and just take it easy on the bike until I get the funds for a 2nd hand). The havoc is a great bike to learn on because of the short travel and climbs reasonably well without supertackys but Im finding it a little limiting when the run gets really rough and I dont want a full on DH rig because a) Im not a pinner b)they're a beast to climb with c)I like the tight and technical stuff over just sheer plowing through a rock garden and hucking off the nearest 15 foot cliff *cough* monty's headtube *cough* ;-) so a nimbler bike seems logical.

I just laughed :):rolleyes:
Well, it hasn't broken yet*, eh :)

So yes, what would you get a furious for when you could have a G.T Ruckus, the most solid bike on the planet :wall:

*visibly

On the topic of a Furious though. Yes, I have never ridden one, but I think they look like a great machine! CG(and Dan Atherton for that matter) rode one at the rampage so if it's strength/stability/hucking geometry you're worried about, stop being such a moaner and get one!

For N.I, i can't decide whether it would be overkill or not. tbh I actually think thats the type of thing that would be handy in N.I. - We have to ride up, but it's the going down we love.

-But, as Steve said, it's really not down to what we say. We might be able to offer you a bit of guidance but it's down to you in the end. Get out and try one out!

Pinkbike Review type thing (http://brule.pinkbike.com/blog/Commencal-furious-review.html)
MTBR Review (http://www.mtbr.com/cat/bikes/freeride-full-suspension/commencal-bicycles/furious/PRD_417837_1543crx.aspx)
(love one of the guys phrases -
The travel - 7 inches when you need it, but feels like less when you don't - sounds sweet :))