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downhilldude
April 20-2009, 05:54 PM
Ok why is this? my bike is 4 months old. After i got all the problems sorted, headset' got the rear hub rebuilt,gear cables,pedles'ect i could go on.
I got all that sorted and bike was going well for a couple of run's down moneyscalp now i have noticed play and noise coming from the crank very little tho.,rear right pivot bushing's have gone,and rear break hose is pissing breake fluid out.. why is this happening?
AndyL
April 20-2009, 06:46 PM
What bike is it? Have you crashed it? Has it been serviced?
Wear and tear happens, sounds like a few of your bearings are going, do you grease them? Do you clean your bike regularly?
Oh, and if your brake is pissing out fluid get it sorted now, before you find you've no brake power when you really need it.
downhilldude
April 20-2009, 07:02 PM
I clean the bike every week. The break has no power at all there is nothing there. I have never crashed the bike that much apart from sliding off in the mud at belvor a couple of times. can you replace the bearings in the bottom bracket? And if so is it costly.And also is the rear right pivot bushing costly to replace.. Thanks for the help DHD
thetrailbuilder
April 20-2009, 07:30 PM
this is the effect of budget full sus dh bike + inexpirienced riding, cheap OEM parts dont take much to break
rank
April 20-2009, 08:34 PM
bushing kit, £50, sounds like your cranks are on the way out also..... Shimano hones £90 but worth it!
Lwatson
April 20-2009, 08:51 PM
is the rear right pivot bushing costly to replace
A bushing in your pivot?
Are you sure its not a bearing?
bushing kit, £50, sounds like your cranks are on the way out also..... Shimano hones £90 but worth it!
Whats the bushing kit for?
Shimano hones £90 but worth it!
2nd that, brilliant crankset for the money.
chucky
April 20-2009, 09:27 PM
Do you wash your bike with a pressure washer?
I had a coiler for about 2-3 years, tiff owned it before me.
I never changed a bushing, or a bottum bracket ever, and i doubt tiff did either.
Surprised your having so much trouble with it tbh, considering your not exactly heavy either.
downhilldude
April 20-2009, 10:08 PM
i am going to stick up a pic of the pivot i am talking about
downhilldude
April 20-2009, 10:18 PM
Here is the rear pivot it is on the right hand side i have never put a preasure washer near the bike !! When you wiggle the wheel it feels like there is play in the wheel but when you put you'r finger on the pivot it is moveing back a forward and it moves if you pull it backwards and forwards and clunks.. I have checked if it is tight and it is.
Kona Rab
April 20-2009, 10:19 PM
how do you wash it?
As Chucky says do you use a power washer??
If so thats your prob.
NiallC771
April 20-2009, 10:22 PM
What bike is it anyway?
downhilldude
April 20-2009, 10:23 PM
stinky and no i never use a preasure wash i use fenwicks cleaner a cloth and a hose.
AndyL
April 20-2009, 10:38 PM
If there is play in the cranks, make sure everuthing is tight. If its crunchy, then replace the bottom bracket (check Jonny c's hone cranks in his clearout). Play in the bushings sounds like a replacement job. Take it to your local bike shop for a fix if you dont know how to do it, Bike Spanner is good... You'll probably need them to fix your brake anyway.
downhilldude
April 20-2009, 10:44 PM
If there is play in the cranks, make sure everuthing is tight. If its crunchy, then replace the bottom bracket (check Jonny c's hone cranks in his clearout). Play in the bushings sounds like a replacement job. Take it to your local bike shop for a fix if you dont know how to do it, Bike Spanner is good... You'll probably need them to fix your brake anyway.
I take it that the little rubber washer's is the bushings as shown in the picture.. how much are they to buy. and to replace the brake hose and fix the bushing. and have a look at the crank. how much would a bike shop charge. I am taking it to cycle zone.+ the crank isn't crunching it just seems to be loose ever so slightly at the left side.
NiallC771
April 20-2009, 10:45 PM
Ride it till it snaps??
downhilldude
April 20-2009, 10:46 PM
don't want to warp the frame !!!
trailfox
April 20-2009, 10:49 PM
the crank isn't crunching it just seems to be loose ever so slightly at the left side.
just keep an eye on that, get them to check the bb/crank splines for damage. If the crank is a little loose and you ride it like that it can wear away at the splines and make the problem worse. I nearly had to replace my crankset over the head of letting it go :-/
NiallC771
April 20-2009, 10:50 PM
Get a service, that'll do the trick. take it to revolution.
AndyL
April 20-2009, 10:50 PM
Just take it to a shop and get it looked at, sounds like the whole thing needs a service. Check with your crank manufacturer's online site for installation instructions, they should show you how to tighten them up.
Brakes are tricky if you are not mechanically minded, so get them done by someone who knows what they are at. They are too important to not be absolutely right (as I found out when I went over the bars because I forgot to tighten mine up once, lucky to walk away...)
Just take it to a shop!!!
(try park tools website or the fantastic sheldon brown's site to learn about bike mechanics, its excellent, and will show you how to do most things)
NiallC771
April 20-2009, 10:51 PM
I just said that?? lol
Lwatson
April 20-2009, 10:53 PM
Just take the bike to cycle zone and Derek will sort you out. He wont have everything you need but he will do his best to resolve your problems and point you in the right direction if needs be.
Kona Rab
April 20-2009, 10:56 PM
Looks like we have got a new Konarider on the site :banghead::banghead:
Not talking about you Jonny by the way.
downhilldude
April 21-2009, 07:53 AM
Looks like we have got a new Konarider on the site :banghead::banghead:
Not talking about you Jonny by the way.
Who.I think i spotted that myself. lol
downhilldude
April 21-2009, 07:54 AM
Listen lads i really appricate your help. Thanks very much Jonathan.
trailfox
April 21-2009, 01:18 PM
Looks like we have got a new Konarider on the site :banghead::banghead:
Not talking about you Jonny by the way.
i concurr :-/
downhilldude
April 21-2009, 01:20 PM
i concurr :-/
What you mean trailfox..In school libary ment to be researching jesus or something...
G-kenny
April 21-2009, 01:35 PM
What you mean trailfox..In school libary ment to be researching jesus or something...
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downhilldude
April 21-2009, 01:44 PM
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oh right. Thanks
G-kenny
April 21-2009, 01:48 PM
I see your on talkphotography too
downhilldude
April 21-2009, 02:36 PM
I see your on talkphotography too
yep thats me. geting into the whole camera thing.
G-kenny
April 21-2009, 02:38 PM
there a good helpfull bunch on there, helped me out loads when i started into photography
downhilldude
April 21-2009, 02:42 PM
I went and seen derek in cycle zone. He is going to do the headset and the rear brake hose. He said he canot do the rear bushing because he can't get the parts for it i have to leave it in of friday. While i am leaving it in I am going to get him to service it aswell..
John_O
April 21-2009, 02:58 PM
those bushings commonly go in kona full suss bikes
they come in the kona bearing kit (these kits are bike specific), but i found that the little bushings at the rear wore out a long time before all the bearings. I contacted Paligap, Kona UK importers (e-mail addess on their website) and they sorted me with a bag of the little bushings for the rear. They are easy to change. I use a set of mole grips to drive the new ones in square.
I also find with the Konas that water gathers in the bottom of the seat tube, so after a hosing, take your seatpost out and turn the bike upside down to get the water out, may get more life out of your bottom bracket
downhilldude
April 21-2009, 03:03 PM
Thanks alot man.. did you see the pic of what i mean.. it is very slight there is no movement up and down just movement side to side but very little would it snap the pivot if i just rode on at it.
John_O
April 21-2009, 03:08 PM
Yeah, saw the pics. Are you sure its not the cones in the rear hub that are loose?
Have you turned the bike upside down and taken the rear wheel out? If not, take it out and put one hand on the frame section above the bushing and one hand on the frame section below the bushing and see if you can feel any movement. You should then know for sure as it is hard to tell with the wheel in what is loose.
If it is definitely the bushing(s), I would change it (or them) as soon as possible, any movement in there is not good for the other suspension bearings
downhilldude
April 21-2009, 03:14 PM
Yeah, saw the pics. Are you sure its not the cones in the rear hub that are loose?
Have you turned the bike upside down and taken the rear wheel out? If not, take it out and put one hand on the frame section above the bushing and one hand on the frame section below the bushing and see if you can feel any movement. You should then know for sure as it is hard to tell with the wheel in what is loose.
If it is definitely the bushing(s), I would change it (or them) as soon as possible, any movement in there is not good for the other suspension bearings
yea it is defo loose it clunks when you hit it with your hand. how much are the bushings do you have any links cheers.dhd
John_O
April 21-2009, 04:13 PM
yea it is defo loose it clunks when you hit it with your hand. How much are the bushings do you have any links cheers.dhd
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