Lewis Does It!

[MrNuts]

About time.
My nerves are wrecked after those last laps.

Well done Lewis Hamilton F1 World Champion

[Tiff]

Unreal.. what a race... what a season!

[thetrailbuilder]

was orgasmic

[a2themfk]

how close was that !!!!!
good on ya lewis :cool:

[findhan]

Timo glock, you are off my Christmas card list you big twat! Absoutely class race.

[cheevers]

race was unreal...lewis got lucky ;)

[Kona Rab]

Oh that was too close to call.

What a race, they don't come much closer than that.

Nice one Lewis

[suspectmonkey]

Don't think I've ever watched any championship in any motorsport decided like that... F1 very much needed a race like that. Just about getting my heart rate back to normal now :)

[MrNuts]

Timo glock, you are off my Christmas card list you big twat! Absoutely class race.

Timo Glock is a star, got out of lewis's way.
That Polish twit who drove like the polish borats in Ireland who made Lewis lose his place should be off ur Chrismas card list

[chris_the_sham]

hilarious. loved the look on ferrari boys faces.

F1 still pile o crap though

[cheevers]

F1 got really boring this season :(

[tankslapper]

Timo Glock for BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award.................

[Ninja2]

My heart still hasnt recovered :)

[gaulty]

did someone pass during a race?

[Zig]

My heart still hasnt recovered :)

Well done Ciaran...:alcohol:

I think for the good of the sport Lewis needed to win.

Still gutted for Massa though, at least we got the WCC :cool:

[Dee205]

I had to refrain from ****ing my tv out the window when he got back 5th position. I'd have liked to see a plane fall out of the sky and land on his car but that's just my opinion!
Don't like him at all. He's a very good driver but he's getting too big for his boots too soon. Does he think he's Michael Schumacher?? i think not!

[thetrailbuilder]

he's better than schumacher

[Dee205]

he's better than schumacher

LOL!

very good!

Best one I've heard all year!

[thetrailbuilder]

he's not german, instantly better

[Girvan]

think his career so far proves he is

[jimjam]

When he can challenge for or even win the title in a car that's in no way competitive maybe we can draw more objective comparisons.

[Girvan]

Providing ferrari dont get their knickers in a bunch and drop out

[jimjam]

Providing ferrari dont get their knickers in a bunch and drop out

eh?

If there's to be a standardised engine for all the constructors then I think Ferrari should drop out. Drivers come and go, it's the teams that make F1. I dont think any of the great teams of F1 would have the same cache if they were just glorified coach builders.

[findhan]

Well done in Ciaran by the way.:o

[colin-mck]

Yea what a nailbiting finish. Its the first race I've watched all year (actually only the second half) as F1 is still crap racing no matter how you look at it.
Glad Lewis got it - he does have an attitude problem sometimes but I think the title is well-deserved - brilliant driver.
Timo Glock - hmmm something a bit fishy there - you don't jujst suddenly lose 18sec on the last lap when you've driven competitively several laps before in exactly the same conditions.

[ciaran-77]

Timo Glock - hmmm something a bit fishy there

I wanted hamilton to win but that was the first words out of my mouth when it happened. It looked well shady. F1 corruption and politics or just luck? F1 is a bit like boxing really you just can't trust them. Still made for some good viewing.

[kenny]

Timo Glock - hmmm something a bit fishy there - you don't jujst suddenly lose 18sec on the last lap when you've driven competitively several laps before in exactly the same conditions.

Yes it was exactly the same conditions: it was RAINING. If it keeps raining, the track gets wetter :banghead:

Glock and Truli both did 1min 44secs on the last lap on dry tyres.

For the differnece, wets vs dry, see below, Alonso, in Renault last lap at Belgium this year:

Alonso on Wets at Spa

[G-kenny]

Totally agree with kenny, Nothing Fishy, The track just got wetter and the track holds the water more towards the uphill section along the back section, Nothing fishy Just Dry tires on a wet track. Well done to lewis, but it was not his outstanding driving that won his the title on saturday, pure luck. But he has driven some awsome drives through out the season.
Gotta feel bad for Massa, wonderfull driver and to be told you had it it then not, you could see it on his face ;(

[thetrailbuilder]

if you watch while hamilton passes timo, notice timo is seriously strugling to keep the car on the road

[findhan]

Was Vettel not on dries on the last lap also and did a rather better job than glock on the dries and Hamilton on the inters? So, in my bitter opinion, there still is something fishy!

[Conor]

no vettel pitted at the same time as lewis and switched to wets.

[kenny]

Was Vettel not on dries on the last lap also and did a rather better job than glock on the dries and Hamilton on the inters? So, in my bitter opinion, there still is something fishy!

If you're going to come up with conspiracy theories, at least get the known facts correct :p

[Zig]

Was Vettel not on dries on the last lap also and did a rather better job than glock on the dries and Hamilton on the inters? So, in my bitter opinion, there still is something fishy!

Vettel Pitted at the same time as Lewis (and put on inters)


Oops didnt see the thread had gone to another page :o

[G-kenny]

Vettel Was on Inters, he pitted the same lap as hamilton, the only two out on the Drys were glock and Trulli i think

[findhan]

My bad!oopps. If thats the case, I suppose we'll have to let Tim O'glock away with it!lol. :p

Anyone see the rally? Loeb is the guy we should be talking about! A talented, intelligent machine

[Dee205]

When he can challenge for or even win the title in a car that's in no way competitive maybe we can draw more objective comparisons.


Too right.
Considering Schumacher took Benetton from basically nothing to 2 Championships and then moved to Ferrari who hadn't won a championship since 1979 and did what he did for them. People go on about having the best car and all that **** but Ferrari had a **** car. He didn't jump into the best car in the grid by any means.

[chris_the_sham]

hes no ken colbert

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=85BpZoeKutY

my wedding car driver by the way :)

[Girvan]

just heard andrew nesbitt used to go out with his niece (shameless name drop)

[baz]

just heard andrew nesbitt used to go out with his nieceThat's disgusting!

[Alan]

Talk about close championships, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S2Tn0A5iG8

Same team, identical bikes, 16 races and half a wheel decides the championship.

Well done Lewis, the championship wouldn't have been so close if he hadn't been robbed at Spa!

[jacks2ts]

Lewis is a plank , if i'd been picked up at the age of 11 given all the oppertunaties to race with the backing of a top formula 1 team then given one of the best car's on the track , i'd have won . The mail paper is saying he's our best sports person this year HHHHHMMMMMMMM ! how quickley they forget our medal winners at the olympics especialy the cycylist who at the weekend won 14 out of the 18 events at the UCI championships in Manchester . Motorracing is not a sport it's a way for the rich to get there rocks off and Lewis is just a token, how quickley do you think Meclaren would have dropped him if he had'nt won, put him in say a Force India car and see what he win's thats what i'd like to see.

[thetrailbuilder]

he's not plank. you should watch the video on youtube of lewis aged 13, getting a mechanical in the heats, starting last on the grid, coming from the back and winning, this when he had just moved up a class and the competition where aged 15, give him an average car he wouldnt win but he certainly wouldnt do too bad

[AndyL]

Lewis is a plank , if i'd been picked up at the age of 11 given all the oppertunaties to race with the backing of a top formula 1 team then given one of the best car's on the track , i'd have won .

My arse.

May I refer you to the Silverstone wet race, GP2, or even top gear's reasonably priced car. Sure, the stig and Nigel mansell beat his lap time by 0.3 of a second. But their laps were in the dry, unlike Hamiltons...


The lad is a phenomenal talent, and a superb driver. He has his bad points, don't we all, but his talent is beyond doubt.

[baz]

Talk about close championships, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S2Tn0A5iG8

Same team, identical bikes, 16 races and half a wheel decides the championship.

Well done Lewis, the championship wouldn't have been so close if he hadn't been robbed at Spa!Holy Moly! Nicely timed.

And, Hamilton's not a plank. A lot, if not all, of the guys on the F1 grid have been racing karts and cars for years and years. And he still beat them, admittedly just about.

I can assure you that, as you say, you'd "been picked up at the age of 11, given all the oppertunaties (sp) to race with the backing of a top formula 1 team then given one of the best car's (sp) on the track", you would not have won anything, never mind an F1 world championship.

[snowfun101]

Hamilton is a class act! Arrogant and full of himself? Maybe, but nice guys don't win races, very often!

A great car and team is needed by anyone to win a Championship, and don't forget he nearly won it in his first year, which is unheard of!


Its clear that some of the people commenting on this thread don't really understand anything about F1!!!

Best to say nothing, your just making yourselves look stupid! haha

[thetrailbuilder]

i bet if he was driving a ferrari or was irish, the people in this thread that dont like him would simply worship the ground he walked on.

[schumacher94]

I agree with you but i believe it is too early to get carried away as he has had his teeth brushed for him all the way through and has went straight into the top car. I think he is has the pedigree and stands out from the other british drivers including hill who was not great but he cant be compared to Schumacher or Senna yet until he does something in a car that is not competitive. Schumacher did so many things the hard way throughout his career for example sacrificing pretty much four world titles by not joining Williams. what he did with that **** heap of a ferrari in spa 96 was alien!! as well as this he went into the Bennetton and took her home twice in a row from his third season when it wasnt even in the top three cars! Schumacher never had any royalties until he earned them and he is from a working class background too, winning races from a kid like Hamilton but was knocked about in F1 first of all by the old skool. not people on this forum because i have seen this mentioned on this thread but people in general forget how exceptional Schumacher was and also how unlucky he was. realistically if Schumacher had half the luck he should have had he would have won about twelve world titles because he was the fastest in the sport for 15 years. Sport is harsh. sorry for the essay or if i have annoyed any users.

[findhan]

Lewis is one of the best of all time, there's no doubt about it, his raw talent is undeniable. But, he doesnt have the nicest personality and Im a Ferrari fan (btw, another constructors - woop woop) so I dont like him!!!Simple as that. :p Bring back daddy Schumacher

[schumacher94]

Schumacher haD the personality to be a pillar for the sport and a favourite among fans. He was ruthless but that is explainable considering his entrance to the sport and could have won a wet race driving a wheelie bin. Fact. Only Fangio and Senna could have done that as well. When he starting dominating the sport that was his reward for sacrifice to ferrari and bad luck.

[jimjam]

Lewis is one of the best of all time, there's no doubt about it, his raw talent is undeniable.

Nonsense.


i bet if he was driving a ferrari or was irish, the people in this thread that dont like him would simply worship the ground he walked on.

Nonsense.




A great car and team is needed by anyone to win a Championship, and don't forget he nearly won it in his first year, which is unheard of!


Its clear that some of the people commenting on this thread don't really understand anything about F1!!!

Best to say nothing, your just making yourselves look stupid! haha

Nonsense.

What criteria is anyone basing the "all time greats" comments about hamilton on? That he's young? or that he recorded a fast lap on star in a reasonably priced car?.

The fact that Eddie Irvine was from here, or that Jordan was owned by an Irish millionaire didnt sway my allegiance. What's needed to asses a sports person's greatness or lack of is objectivity. Objectivity that has been completely lacking from the British sporting press' coverage of F1 for the last twenty years. You just cannot compare someone who has been in F1 for two years in one of the fastest cars with someone who is statistically and undeniably the greatest of all time. With the exception of "youngest champion" Schumacher holds virtually every single record in F1, he's the benchmark and as yet Hamilton has done nothing to justify any comparison.

During his utter destruction of virtually everyone he competed against British commentators, be it Murray Walker or James Allen and Martin Brundle could barely begrudgingly acknowledge his superiority, at the same the tabloids painted him as a demon. Compare and contrast this with their absolute hero worship of Damon Hill, David Coulthard, Jensen Button and now of course Lewis Hamilton.

Anyone who claims that Hamilton is one of the all time greats already is simply buying into the unbelievable mountain of hype behind him. He won the title by one point, and by a stroke of luck in one of if not the fastest cars. Hardly an indisputable sign of greatness. When Schumacher finally had a competitive car he won championships by 67 points or 34 points. Even when his car was widely acknowledged by everyone in F1 as barely being in the top half in terms of speed and woefully unreliable he was still competing for world championships and pushing them to the wire.

Schumacher's achievements are so many and so great there's simply no point listing them. It seems that some people who claim to be fans of F1 have the memories of goldfish.

Im not saying Lewis is a bad driver, Im not even saying he isnt a great driver but people claiming he is one the all time greats seriously need to get a grip. He's proven nothing that Damon Hill, Jaques Villenueve , Mika Hakinen etc havent already proven - Put a decent driver in the fastest car and they'll win the championship. National pride is understandable and to be expected but hysteria.....

[schumacher94]

people need a recap of schumachers highlights. Some of the things he achieved are ridiculously impressive and should never be forgotten. no matter what people want to say in a negative sense about him will always be irrelevant compared to his stupendous talent and ability to drive a reliant robin to the wet finish line of a F1 race if need be. Again with many black flags and disqualifications, broken legs, bad luck, blown engines, two years in a benetton and a disadvantaged ferrari that he only got to prove his skills in while it was wet he still achieved 7 world titles. 2006 should have been his too, but unfortunately not, and as he was the fastest by a country mile as everyone knows he should have won in my opinion another four or five world titles, in other words his achievements are actually a false reflection of what he was scarily capable of. i fear that lewis hamilton may get an easier ride and already has (hence his world title) meaning schumachers achievements and goals could be easier to meet than expected.

[snowfun101]

JimJam, you need to calm down! haha

[Dee205]

Nonsense.



Nonsense.



Nonsense.

What criteria is anyone basing the "all time greats" comments about hamilton on? That he's young? or that he recorded a fast lap on star in a reasonably priced car?.

The fact that Eddie Irvine was from here, or that Jordan was owned by an Irish millionaire didnt sway my allegiance. What's needed to asses a sports person's greatness or lack of is objectivity. Objectivity that has been completely lacking from the British sporting press' coverage of F1 for the last twenty years. You just cannot compare someone who has been in F1 for two years in one of the fastest cars with someone who is statistically and undeniably the greatest of all time. With the exception of "youngest champion" Schumacher holds virtually every single record in F1, he's the benchmark and as yet Hamilton has done nothing to justify any comparison.

During his utter destruction of virtually everyone he competed against British commentators, be it Murray Walker or James Allen and Martin Brundle could barely begrudgingly acknowledge his superiority, at the same the tabloids painted him as a demon. Compare and contrast this with their absolute hero worship of Damon Hill, David Coulthard, Jensen Button and now of course Lewis Hamilton.

Anyone who claims that Hamilton is one of the all time greats already is simply buying into the unbelievable mountain of hype behind him. He won the title by one point, and by a stroke of luck in one of if not the fastest cars. Hardly an indisputable sign of greatness. When Schumacher finally had a competitive car he won championships by 67 points or 34 points. Even when his car was widely acknowledged by everyone in F1 as barely being in the top half in terms of speed and woefully unreliable he was still competing for world championships and pushing them to the wire.

Schumacher's achievements are so many and so great there's simply no point listing them. It seems that some people who claim to be fans of F1 have the memories of goldfish.

Im not saying Lewis is a bad driver, Im not even saying he isnt a great driver but people claiming he is one the all time greats seriously need to get a grip. He's proven nothing that Damon Hill, Jaques Villenueve , Mika Hakinen etc havent already proven - Put a decent driver in the fastest car and they'll win the championship. National pride is understandable and to be expected but hysteria.....


The End!

Very well said Jimjam

[thetrailbuilder]

i cant be arsed reading that dissertation, im toooooo pissed, hamilton rocks, end of store my drunken self is correct, shut your traps ;)

[AndyL]

Put a decent driver in the fastest car and they'll win the championship. National pride is understandable and to be expected but hysteria.....

Yeah right enough, the Mclaren is so good that Hamilton and Kovalinen have been 1/2 all season. Oh wait.....

Hamilton has a way to go before he proves that he is an all time great. But he's already got one record. And with more car/drivers capable of winning races now (but it was the likes of Schuey who helped take the uncompetitive ferrari and make it a world dominating car and driver combo) its harder to win a world championship. Schuey (defo one of the all time greats) walked away with some world titles because the ferrari was such a dominant machine, and Schuey was the best pilot.

But lets not take anything away from Hamilton, he did it, most of the posters on this thread (to the best of my knowledge) haven't...

[RockHopper89]

Just imagine... Schumacher came out of retirement and joined Hamiltion in McLaren

No team orders

Who wins?

[jimjam]

Yeah right enough, the Mclaren is so good that Hamilton and Kovalinen have been 1/2 all season. Oh wait.....

Hamilton has a way to go before he proves that he is an all time great. But he's already got one record. And with more car/drivers capable of winning races now (but it was the likes of Schuey who helped take the uncompetitive ferrari and make it a world dominating car and driver combo) its harder to win a world championship. Schuey (defo one of the all time greats) walked away with some world titles because the ferrari was such a dominant machine, and Schuey was the best pilot.

But lets not take anything away from Hamilton, he did it, most of the posters on this thread (to the best of my knowledge) haven't...

No, turns out no one posting on this thread is an F1 champion (except maybe that schumacher guy). I happen to think Hamilton the man is a very very good driver, just nowhere near the young god that Hamilton the media creation is portrayed to be.

[jacks2ts]

Jimjam "dito"

[Zig]

Just imagine... Schumacher came out of retirement and joined Hamiltion in McLaren

No team orders

Who wins?

Its in a mclaren so who cares ? :D