OT: PS3 or xbox360?

[Hollywood]

Want new games console; what are the pros and cons of either?

[chris]

Im getting a ps3 in work tomorrow tho i am getting 20% off the bundle price.

Getting the ps3 over the xbox because theres always faulty xboxes coming back and also grand theft auto will be out on ps3 aswell as gran turismo!

[Zig]

The 360 has a much better online experience.

Games are much the same on both machines (give or take).

Look at the back catalogue for both machines and base your decision on what games you are most likley to play. There is no point in getting a machine because its can process 30 million polygons a second etc. Get a machine that has games you like...

Bit like a bike, get one that suits your riding. No point in a 10 inch full bouncer if you wanna do XC on it..

Also dont let the recent spate of xbox failures put you off, Microsoft have extended the warranty on 360s to 3 years...

[Mr Black]

360 in a few months - new CPU coming out for it that's gonna run a load cooler so no more overheating problems, you can get two games with it and still pay less than for a PS3, and xbox live is the dogs. Plus Halo 3, skate, the xbox live marketplace to download all the classic Sega games and new indie developer ones....

[kenny]

Probably a PS3 for me soonish. Also gets pretty good reviews as a stand alone Bluray player if you're interested in that.

[PBR_Streetgang]

had the same decision to make last month.
went for the xbox 360 as the ps3 is pish*










































*taxi driver in a bar told me that

[Steveb]

Wii.

[endofreak]

If you want to play games, get the 360. If you want to watch Blu Ray movies, get the PS3.

[jimjam]

megadrive.

[willb]

none - get out and ride your bike

[suspectmonkey]

Think Im gonna go for a(nother) 360. I had bought one when they first came out, but saw £ signs and flogged it on ebay before the second batch came through for about twice what I paid for it. Gotta love ebay :) Since then Ive been passing the time with my PS2 because I liked the games I had on it (pretty much all racing games!). I bought a Wii quite recently but ended up selling it on to my brother as the games on it just werent for me and the novelty wore off fairly quickly (although Resident Evil was class!). My bro loves it. Im wouldnt mind a PS3 but they are just too pricey. Plus I see new Project Gotham is due out for 360, and PGR3 was probably one of the best racing games Ive played. Forza Motorsport 2 is also sitting there waiting for me. Gran Turismo isnt a strong enough draw for me, I dont think its actually that great a racing game. I find its much more about having the right garage than being good at racing, and your only ever racing 4 cars at a time which sucks. That still doesnt stop me doing countless laps of the "ring" though :)

Mr Black - tell me more bout this processor! Is this something that will be officially released or just something Microsoft will slip into the likes of the Elite without mentioning it?

[Tiff]

Yeah im sony really haven't got much going for the PS3 - there is an awful games line up at the mintue and all the biggest games (resident evil , Devil may cryn Grand theft auto) are coming out on xbox

Also - xbox live is awesome, it really is superb -

and Halo 3 and skate as mr black, skate is bloody awesome :p

[Jonnyc]

What is this Skate you speak off MR Tiff?

[keith]

The fabrication process for producing the xbox360 chip has been reduced in size, it was 90nm then 60nm and is going down to 45nm (end of 2008), this has a host of benefit's which include making the die smaller, and the chip use less power and run cooler (not to mention making the chip cheaper to produce). Making the chip run cooler stops the ring of death (as found with alot of the early 90nm chips) and means that it needs a smaller heating system. This also means that the machine is quieter. New dvd-drives were also added to the more recent machines which also makes the quieter when running.

I love the 360 and, as stated before, the ps3 is a long way behind the 360 in terms of games and it doesnt look like that will change in the near future. The only game I have seen for the ps3 that i want that isnt coming to the 360 is 'folklore' which makes me a little sad (but only a little).

I would say that there have been some strong rumours of a cheaper ps3 that is about to be released. It will probably come with a 40Gb HDD and not have hardware ps2 support (europe never had it anyway). There have been suggestions that usb and some other devices have been removed but nothing has been confirmed.

long story short - buy a 360 and play lots of games

btw skate is an EA alternative to tony hawk, and seems to be very good. but it is coming to both 360 and ps3 so it doesnt help the choices

[Tiff]

What is this Skate you speak off MR Tiff?

its out on 360 now and ps3 very soon

Basically a skateboarding game but they have overhauled the controls and offer a totally new intuitive method for control.

I only played the demo a couple of times and yes it has a steep learning curve but after an hour you really start to think like a skater and how you can link your lines.

Very awesome skatboard game


And everything keith says about the xbox chips is true - by the way - the elite has had almost no faults - thats what im on now after 2 faulty premium white models

[bikerben]

PS3 PS3 PS3 PS3 most 360 owners havent even played the ps3 and dont know what its like ive had the ps3 sense release and its the best 425 quid ive ever spent, online is fantastic nd yes ive played xbox live but ps3 is better 360. you get a bunch of fanboys talkin bull and leavin bad rep about you gow is the worst for it . the games are fantastic for the ps3 warhawk is the best dam game ive ever played never off the bloody thing. if your going for entertainment PS3 its a great family thing too with great features coming start of next year e.g hd digital tv. bluray is stunning. There is alot of great exclusives for the ps3 in the next few months Haze being a big one also alot of old names exclusivly on ps3 (mgs). 360 is cheaper but if u add on the hddvd drive and the online it costs more than the ps3. also the 360's reliablity is crap mates been through 3. u give it till 08 and the ps3 is gonna come on leaps and bounds with all that has been promised leaving 360 in its dust,

Hope i help but if not buy both ill woop your ass on hawk lol

Also chris give us your psn name when your up and running.

[keith]

with all that has been promised

Thats all that needs said.

Bikerben, I have played the ps3 (alot) and to be honest the only thing I prefer about it is the menu system, but it is a very very nice menu system though.

[thetrailbuilder]

ps3 online is free!!!! unlike the xbox, remember the big games for the ps3 are absolutly epic, Resistance is the best game i have ever played, kicks gears of wars ass anyday, and codemasters even said that the latest colin mcrea game is better on the ps3 than xbox, Call of Duty 4 is due soon and will be increadible. as an all round package the ps3 is better, but if you want to play games the xbox will do if it dosnt break, i got fed up doing refunds for xboxs when i worked at currys, dozens of them returned, PS3 is the best buy ive made in a long time, if you add all the additions you need to bring the xbox up to the standard of ps3, HD drive etc it cost more than a ps3!!!

[thetrailbuilder]

look at the quality of the guts of the ps3 compeared to the 360 elite, the addition to detail in the ps3 is amazing

ps3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=zg36QFaYbtU
xbox http://youtube.com/watch?v=YOeCbt1SQZo

[suspectmonkey]

best 425 quid ive ever spent

You may change your mind on that, and this might actually influence the buying process for some people:

clickety click! (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pocketli/20071005/ttc-sony-ps3-price-cut-and-new-40gb-mode-57dbc65_1.html)

[endofreak]

ps3 online is free!!!! unlike the xbox, remember the big games for the ps3 are absolutly epic, Resistance is the best game i have ever played, kicks gears of wars ass anyday,

What big games? I've never played resistence but have read a lot of reviews and the general view is that it's pretty average. Gears of War on the other hand has had nothing but outstanding reviews.

[thetrailbuilder]

go play resistance and see how good it is steve

[keith]

I have played resistance and I agree it is not exactly earth shattering (good not great), but that isnt be the be all and end all of the discussion.

The way i see it comes down to this:

xbox: has a better and more varied selection of games and will continue to do so for quite sometime. so if you want a console to play games then the xbox is best (i include the wii in this because it has a **** selection atm)

ps3: is a media machine, so if your interests go beyond just games and into various media applications get the ps3

[bikerben]

You may change your mind on that, and this might actually influence the buying process for some people:

clickety click! (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pocketli/20071005/ttc-sony-ps3-price-cut-and-new-40gb-mode-57dbc65_1.html)

im not worried im still happy with spending 425 for it and the price cut is brilliant i know loads of people that will now buy the ps3 as its alot cheaper and before christmas sales will rocket. resistance is such an old game warhawk is were its at, its like gow (ancient). the ps3 is alot more than just a games console its future proof the 360 will die out unless they bring out yet another 360 with a hddvd player built in. and for endofreak gow and halo 3 are such over rated games, i played both and apart from good grafs nothing the ps3 hasent got. rfom has great grafs and a brilliant story line, warhawks solely online with a mass of new material for release. the games for the ps3 were abit slow to start off but in the next few months and in 2008 huge numbers of games are for release 20 or so of em being exclusive to ps3. and after playin the 360 my ears ring its so bloody loud. thanks

[keyserni]

Get both!

I have a 360 because of xbox live. My friend has both and buys games for the 360 and HD movies for the PS3 even though he has the 360 HD-DVD drive. He's had his PS3 for over 4 months now and he still only has two games for it which came in the bundle.

Grand Theft Auto 5 will be getting exclusive downloadable content on the 360. Don't forget Bioshock and Halo 3 coming out within a month of each other on the 360 while PS3 players are still waiting for a AAA title.

I've played both Gears of War and Resistance and I'm reminded of the time when the developers of Killzone called it a Halo beater, it wasn't. Resistance is the same, fun but a pale imitation of GOW and it is a imitation. The storey is a clear rip off.

Seems a lot of us have XBL, my Gamertag is KeyserNI so feel free to add me or just check out my Halo stats which are impressive*

*not actually.

[chris]

i got my ps3 with 2 games and 2 blu rays and 1 controller thru work for £330 today. Currently downloading a bit of old school crash bandicoot, £3.49 for the full game on the playstation store, will be getting syphon filter.

I work in Woolworths and we have a new deal on with the 360 for £279.99 you get the 360 with the extra controller and harddrive and then fifa 08, forza motorsport and harry potter.

Also at the mo they have a flyer out with another 10% off certain consoles, ps3 is def on it which makes the bundle about £385 and the psp is on it and possibly the wii

[Hollywood]

I see sony have just announced a new ps3 model and a 100 quid reduction in the old one for next week...

[chris]

im typing this message from my ps3 online and the console is amazing!

[heald]

Humm..

If you are thinking about getting a PS3, get one soon.

The 60Gb version is being not being made anymore so the 60Gb starter packs are there to get rid of the last of the stocks "ie everything must go sale".

The new cheaper 40Gb isn't backwards compatible at all with PS2* which for older gamers like myself with a large stock of PS2 titles is pretty poor. All of the PS3 are compatible with PS1 games apprantly.

I was waiting 'til the price came down before getting a PS3, but now it looks like the only version that would be any good to me is being phased out to be replaced with a much inferior version, £350 is still a rediculous price to pay for a games machine though.




* - The 60Gb has a software emulator for PS1 and PS2 in europe, ROW got a proper chip.

[Tiff]

* - The 60Gb has a software emulator for PS1 and PS2 in europe, ROW got a proper chip.


This is true, and caused alot of people to cancel their pre orders of PS3 when i was working in Game.

basically PS3 in amercia and Asia contains the PS2 hardware and can therefore run PS2 and PS1 games as well as the PS2 can (which is damn near perfect) however europe got that chiped ripped out (or never installed) and this was a big kick in the teeth as the Ps3 no has to use software to convert the PS3 chip to work with the old titles.

At the min i game on my ps2 and 360 and its awesome - as all my old games are ps2 + ps1 but all my new games are 360

[bikerben]

What is the point in buying a new console to play the older games, serously nit picking. You buy a new console to play the new games. And there is plenty of 60gb consoles left for anyone wanting them before christmas. P.S chris whats your psn name?

[Tiff]

What is the point in buying a new console to play the older games, serously nit picking. You buy a new console to play the new games. And there is plenty of 60gb consoles left for anyone wanting them before christmas. P.S chris whats your psn name?

massive interest boyo - in my top 5 favourite ever games its mostly pc and ps1 + 2 titles - the games I play on my 360 are awesome yes, but you cant judge a game by its graphics alone.

Thats why i feel ps1 games can be better than modern games, due to their awesome story or gameplay.

Final Fantasy VII for example, the greatest game ever made, loved by myself, and i wouldnt want to get a ps3 knowing id have to keep my ps2 out all the time if i ever wanted to play some classics. Just during summer i bought a load of awesome classics from ebay that i had never got round to playing when the ps1 was in its hayday -- Silent hill for example -

Imagine getting a dvd player that couldnt play films made before the millennium

[bikerben]

so buy a ps3 now then before there sold out. Or wait till they bring out the 80gb. ive a hell of a collection of ps2 games but ive not played 1 of them sense i got the ps3

[heald]

Spot on Tiff - it's a right kick in the nads.

There are no plans to release the 80gb within SCEE (europe/middle east) , so it looks like I'm going to get a 60GB version earlier than i thought. Once again Europe gets shafted, first by having imperfect software to play a limited selection of PS2 games rather than the emotion engine chip and in the near future, no ability to play them on a PS3 at all. And it will cost me more than if you were buying them in the USA or japan.

It's very short sighted of Sony, one of the major selling points of the PS2 was that you'd be able to play all the PS1 titles at the time. I've built up a big libaray of games and I don't want to have to move the PS2 from the games room to the big telly if I want a bit of retro GTA etc.

[thetrailbuilder]

probly find the chip was left out to keep the cost down, remember EU block import taxes etc. blame the EU

[heald]

it was left out to keep costs down.

It's well known that SOny make the PS3 at a loss, however it's annoying that the better equipped PS3 in Japan and the USA is cheaper to buy... European gamers are getting ripped off compared.

[Tiff]

The thing is - while you could buy a USA or Japan PS3 due to Ps3 games being region free you still hit the snag that ps2 and ps1 games are not region free, so even if your console had the ps2 chip your still gonna need to keep your ps2 out.

Although - not to diss sony too much - but the 360 uses software and emulation to play its old games but it doesnt do it that well - for example playing halo 2 split screen if alot is goign on at one time the frame rate will drop and not all xbox games will even play.

Its just that because i have shelves full of ps1 and ps2 games im more annoyed about loosing those while with no xbox games the baswards compatabilty issue of the 360 are such a big thing for me -- will depend if you had an original xbox i suppose

[bikerben]

sorry read something somewhere about 80gb model. But there is still going to be a 60gb model with 2 games and 2 controllers for 350 with full backwords compatability, and a 40gb model for 300, full spec here http://spong.com/article/13948/OFFICIAL_Entry_Level_PlayStation_Specifications?cb =632 both support blu-ray, the stand alone ps3 with 1 controller is being phased out just.

[heald]

I wish that were true but:

From the President of SCEE himself.




The specification of the new 40GB model has been determined following feedback from thousands of PS3 owners, and features two USB 2.0 ports rather than four and no longer includes the multi memory card port.

The new 40GB model is also no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation 2 titles. This is due to a reduced emphasis placed on this feature by later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific games, which will number a total of 65 titles across all genres by Christmas 2007.

In the UK and Ireland, a Value Pack consisting of a 60GB PS3 with extensive backwards compatibility and two first party titles will be on sale at a price of €499 (£349). Remaining on sale while stocks last, the 60GB model represents outstanding value for the keen gamer wishing to upgrade to the High Definition capabilities of PS3. Once stocks are exhausted the new 40GB model will be the only one available in the SCEE territories.

[bikerben]

yes mate it is read what you just wrote in better detail

[andyh]

I've not switched my xbox on this year since logging into EVE online on the PC.
beats any console game I've played

[Tiff]

I've not switched my xbox on this year since logging into EVE online on the PC.
beats any console game I've played

ah eve - ive tried it, bit odd, an economy game :p thought certainly special in its own way

[andyh]

Economy :confused: Kill them, loot them, and stick their frozen corpse in your hanger as a souvenier :D

[thetrailbuilder]

why not bring up an old argument

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjgVD7qcsG0&fmt=22

[mprules]

that video doesn't really do much for me, in fact if it wasn't for MGS i would have sold my ps3 long ago gears 2 is currently my vice

[midgit]

xbox 360 all the way - better interface, online is better, better games choices.........

Everyone i know who had a PS3 all changed to a 360 - cheaper, more reliable plus all of the reasons above and many more.........

i cant stay away from mine its so good

[thetrailbuilder]

if your playing gears2 you are ignorant to the brilliance of killzone2

and midgit to say an xbox is more reliable you clearly are thick

[mprules]

graphics aint everything and i just find gears more fun than killzone....

that said sonic 1 was one of the best games of all time. Also i have gone through 3 ps3's with the well known hdd issue and still on my first xbox which is a release console

[penguinni]

I still think the 360 has better graphics - but if I was to change Id be tempted by the PS3 for the inclusion of Blu-ray, and I think its quieter - my 360 is a noisy beast ( despite the replacements following 2x3RRODs)

Live is excellent too...although I resent paying for it.

Roll on the Blu-ray 360 with free Live!

[mprules]

Blue Ray isnt a big factor for me either , my 360 can wake my macbook up from sleep and stream any media from its hdd it wants which tbh is perfect for me :)

[midgit]

360 are clearly the most reliable, the only reason they over heat(RROD) is because people dont let them circulate or they recieved a faulty one.

e.g Mprules went through 3 PS3's were's the reliability in that

XBOX all the way

[thetrailbuilder]

360 are clearly the most reliable, the only reason they over heat(RROD) is because people dont let them circulate or they recieved a faulty one.

e.g Mprules went through 3 PS3's were's the reliability in that

XBOX all the way

yeap your thick

[Tiff]

360 are clearly the most reliable, the only reason they over heat(RROD) is because people dont let them circulate or they recieved a faulty one.

e.g Mprules went through 3 PS3's were's the reliability in that

XBOX all the way

sorry midget, im a 360 owner myself and I have to disagree, they are far more unreliable than PS3.

Im currently on my 4th xbox (within the first year so it was swapped for free each time) The circulation thing isn't an issue for almost all cases of RROD, of my 3 faulty xboxs only 1 had the rrod, the other 2 were a faulty cd drive and a faulty gpu output.

The PS3 does have issues as we see a few returned every week in Game where I work part time. The % is low but the PS3 is still not without fault.

However the Xbox is much more unreliable, yes now that the newer versions are out its about on par with the PS3 but for its first 2 years, and especially its first some people belive its faulty rate to be almost 30%, compared to (for electronics industry a 1-3% faulty average)

[keyserni]

You’re as bad as me and Macs trailbuilder, although I write from the Mac camp in support of Windows. Nope not in the least bit reliable no one I know that bought an original still has it but on the upside everyone has had them replaced within days. I got a brand new model with the new heat sink plus a refund for the money I'd already spent.
I remember writing about my mate that bought the ps3 when it was £425 and still only had two games well he still only has two games but he has a ton of blue-ray.
I’d have to say they are pretty evenly matched but the ps3 stands out for it’s blu-ray and 360 stands out for xbox live.

what sort of prices are they these days?

[thetrailbuilder]

there is loads of games out and coming for the ps3, sony has 20 internal games studios, microsoft 3/4 now, 299 for ps3, xbox would be same price once you get everything you need for it for online

[keyserni]

The basic pack contains everything you need for xbox live and more I just checked it's less than £150. You pay £40 for a year, what else is included in your estimate to get it on xbox live?

[johnny]

PS3 all the way, it is without a shadow of a doubt
the best out of the both, its dearer but it's unreal I've got an 80GB
and it's great fun,
im actualy write this on the ps3...:D:cool:
if you get a ps3 get call of duty 4+5
and play online

game play is unreal......

great fun on ****ty days when their nothing to do...

[thetrailbuilder]

The basic pack contains everything you need for xbox live and more I just checked it's less than £150. You pay £40 for a year, what else is included in your estimate to get it on xbox live?

if you need wireless, £50, basic dont come with hdd, need that for DLC and patches

[MrNuts]

You all need to get a life and get out doors, its no wonder all the kids are obese these days!;)
Whats wrong with throwing a ball against a wall and catching it with one hand behind your back.
We used to play hide and seek and all sorts and there were more paedophiles back then as well.
Never did me no harm:D


You all need to get out on your bikes more!

[keyserni]

Yes it does it comes with a 20gb, plus a headset, wireless controller and all the cables you need. Anyway you don't need wireless to get it on xbox live. That's like including the price of a wi-fi router, you don't need it to get online. Do you still have to buy your own HDMI cable for the PS3?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xbox-360-Console-Hard-Drive/dp/B0007SV72A/ref=amb_link_83602553_3?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-4&pf_rd_r=0CWCXX2HQB3QNAZ2BA0R&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467407453&pf_rd_i=15826471

[MrNuts]

You all need to get a life and get out doors, its no wonder all the kids are obese these days!;)
Whats wrong with throwing a ball against a wall and catching it with one hand behind your back.
We used to play hide and seek and all sorts and there were more paedophiles back then as well.
Never did me no harm:D


You all need to get out on your bikes more!



I have now turned into my dad::yikes::

Off for a drink:banghead:

[thetrailbuilder]

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1415/livecopy.jpg

HEHE

[keyserni]

Trying to change the subject never works.

[thetrailbuilder]

simply put you cant beat the specs of a ps3, pc's cant even beat the ps3's processor, graphics cards yes, playstation is inovating games, where as xbox is relying on 3rd party multiplat titles to keep it afloat

[MrNuts]

Anyone played Pong?

[jimjam]

Anyone played Pong?

Yes, but have you? You wanna get old school?

[keyserni]

simply put you cant beat the specs of a ps3, pc's cant even beat the ps3's processor, graphics cards yes, playstation is inovating games, where as xbox is relying on 3rd party multiplat titles to keep it afloat

I meant in reply to you saying that it would would take £300 to buy a 360 capable of getting on xbox live when in reality it's half that.

It could be argued that the PS3 is kept afloat on first party games. Games are bloody games. I'll give you a handful of games produced by microsoft game studios for the 360: halo 3, fable 2, GOW 1+2, Forza 2, Mass Effect, Project Gotham 3+4 and these are only the ones I've bought. Hardly exactly lacking I would have to say. Name me that many AAA first party titles for the PS3 from Sony. On my hand I count about the same amount of great first party games from Sony for the PS3.

Who cares about the processor, it's the package and if your talking about power+graphics then the pc will always win.

[thetrailbuilder]

well so far 2009, microsoft has been very weak with games, and there isnt any annouced to come except another halo

[suspectmonkey]

I never quite got the concept of the word "fanboy" till I read this thread :p

I haven't switched my 360 on in ages, just find games to be pretty rubbish these days. It's all about online gaming and FPS, real lack of good games with quality story lines. Either that or you just grow out of the things ;)

I actually have an original Pong console here at home, although its lurking in the attic along with my trusty Amiga 500+. Must check out if it still works, probably get more out of it!

[thetrailbuilder]

if you want a quality storey get the GOW series for ps2, ICO and shaddow of the colosus also for ps2

[suspectmonkey]

if you want a quality storey get the GOW series for ps2, ICO and shaddow of the colosus also for ps2

I do have GOW2 for the 360, got it over Christmas and played a fair bit through it, then kinda lost interest. Mind you talking about it I do kinda fancy a blast at it now... all right hypocrisy inbound, I'm away to give it a shot :D

[keyserni]

well so far 2009, microsoft has been very weak with games, and there isnt any annouced to come except another halo

Oh wait so in 2009 they are weak ah so because SCE has released one good title in 2009 (Killzone 2) they are better off. LOL.

Think he's talking about the excellent God of War.

If you read my post's I haven't said a bad word about the PS3 I've only been defending the 360.

I have a blast on left4dead every now and then apart from that I haven't played anything in ages.

[thetrailbuilder]

god of war 3 is coming this year, go look whats coming for the ps3 this year, loads of games

[MrNuts]

Yes, but have you? You wanna get old school?

I think that was the last consule game i played, ooh sorry just remembered i had a sega megadrive i used three time, played desert storm (1993) on it, then meyt a girl!
I have completed MOHAA on my pc, very good, i have a wii now that i rarely use, though after 50 days from the last time i used the wii fit i seem to have lost 12 pounds:D

[thetrailbuilder]

alex the kid on the mega drive, fantastic

[MrNuts]

alex the kid on the mega drive, fantastic

Twas 18 years ago, prob stil at my mums house, might be worth a bob or two now

[thetrailbuilder]

Twas 18 years ago, prob stil at my mums house, might be worth a bob or two now

im 22 and i remember this game very well, loved it

[MrNuts]

im 22 and i remember this game very well, loved it

I got bored with it very quickly! I'm the same with all computer games,can't beat reality

[chucky]

You all need to get a life and get out doors, its no wonder all the kids are obese these days!

I have a ps3, so your argument doesnt hold up :p

We've got a ps3 and xbox360 in our house.

The ps3 is better quality graphics, better games, and more of a media centre aspect to it. (BBC iplayer on the ps3 rocks).

Both have needed to be repaired under warrenty. With the xbox, we had to bundle it up, and post it ourselves - it was returned about 2-3 weeks laters.

With the ps3, a man came to our door (on a friday), put it in a box - was back with me on Tuesday morning. (in alot of instances, when they take one, they leave one).

[thetrailbuilder]

bbc HD iplayer soon for ps3

[Farry]

ps3.

[thetrailbuilder]

ps3.

get yours online yet?

[Zig]

Never understood the arguement that ps3 or xbox is better because of the specs...

The games are what matters, I have both consoles (amongst others) and tend to buy games for the 360 if they are available on both consoles

I dont give a monkeys if a PS3 can render 3 gazzilion polygons if it doesnt have decent gameplay to go with it.

I generally am not keen on most things that Microsoft produce (they are usually poorly put together) but I think they have got it pretty spot on with the xbox.

[mprules]

lol at the cost aspect there trail builder ,

My mate just got an arcade 360 from sainsburys for 90 odd quid with a footie game,

This he can play online without any other bits bar the live subscription which while may contain alot of young people you cannot compare to PSN.


As for your comment RE: processor there are plenty faster than the ps3, it is not an 8 Core processor it has one real core and 7 slaves.

[thetrailbuilder]

awk jesting aside i just did this on cod, killzone makes cod seem a doddle
hardcore headquarters 61kills- 10 deaths
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs010.snc1/2886_76360193350_503233350_1581248_6055430_n.jpg

[keyserni]

I like how you've went from 360 relies too much on 3rd party games to 2009 is a weak year for 360 1st party games to yea but look at the games that will be coming out for the ps3.

[thetrailbuilder]

ok il write you a list

xbox exclusives 2009
GTA IV DLC
Halo: ODST
Halo Wars
Alan Wake

ps3 2009
killzone 2
the agency
2 team ICO games
god of war 3
gran tourismo
inFamous
fatprinces
MLB 09 the show
heavy rain
rachet and clank crack in time
afrika
dark mist
dc universe online
MAG 256 player online shooter
jack and daxter
flower
2 rockstar games
twisted metal
uncharted 2
white knight chronicals
theres 10 more cant be assed writing them

exclusives is what makes a consal God of war 3 is enough on its own

[MrNuts]

I have a ps3, so your argument doesnt hold up :p

We've got a ps3 and xbox360 in our house.



Your never out anymore:p

[MrNuts]

The ps3 is better quality graphics, better games, and more of a media centre aspect to it. (BBC iplayer on the ps3 rocks).



So does that mean if you have a ps3 wired to the telly you can watch bbc prog you've missed on the big telly?

[thetrailbuilder]

So does that mean if you have a ps3 wired to the telly you can watch bbc prog you've missed on the big telly?

yes, can do it with the wii as well

[penguinni]

Bioshock was great.

So was CoD, Gears and Mass Effect.

[MrNuts]

yes, can do it with the wii as well

How?

[keyserni]

ok il write you a list

xbox exclusives 2009
GTA IV DLC
Halo: ODST
Halo Wars
Alan Wake

ps3 2009
killzone 2
the agency
2 team ICO games
god of war 3
gran tourismo
inFamous
fatprinces
MLB 09 the show
heavy rain
rachet and clank crack in time
afrika
dark mist
dc universe online
MAG 256 player online shooter
jack and daxter
flower
2 rockstar games
twisted metal
uncharted 2
white knight chronicals
theres 10 more cant be assed writing them

exclusives is what makes a consal God of war 3 is enough on its own

Again very well researched but I'll just rhyme about 10 more from the top of my head that you happened to miss.
Mass Effect 2
Ninety-Nine Nights 2
Ninja Blade
All Points Bulletin
Huxley
2 days to Vegas
Project Forza 3
Lionhead Project Dimitri
GTA IV Episode 2
Fallout 3 DLC
Plus a couple of new rare games
Plus more dlc for Left4Dead which isn't coming to the PS3 anytime soon.

[thetrailbuilder]

nothing there is of the same standard of the SCE games

[keyserni]

LOL your right I mean there isn't sequels or expanded content to 5 games of the year there, Oh wait......

[keith]

Lets also not mention that a few of those games will NOT make it to release in 2009.

I almost feel dirty in participating in this retarded fanboy discussion.
And as for the arguement of my todger can render xxx petaflops lets not forget that the ps2 was the weakest of that generation (discounting my beloved dreamcast) and that was not a hinderance.

But anyho do carry on....

[penguinni]

So youre the one that bought the Dreamcast??;)

[thetrailbuilder]

im only argueing to bring out the xbots for a laugh, nothing serious lol

bit none your xbox games will have true 7.1 hd sound unlike all sony entertainment games because your dvd9 only has 6.8gig storage

and none your xbox games are native 720 or 1080 because it cant do it, it works like a dvd upscaler

[keyserni]

im only argueing to bring out the xbots for a laugh, nothing serious lol

bit none your xbox games will have true 7.1 hd sound unlike all sony entertainment games because your dvd9 only has 6.8gig storage

and none your xbox games are native 720 or 1080 because it cant do it, it works like a dvd upscaler

All games are native 720p on the 360.

Dreamcasts were great I loved Shenmue and ChuChu Rocket.

[Zig]

Ah Dreamcast now your talking...

That was a Console that really punched above its weight.

[thetrailbuilder]

All games are native 720p on the 360.



incorrect, most are in the region of 640p and upscaled

not NATIVE

[keyserni]

incorrect, most are in the region of 640p and upscaled

not NATIVE

Proof?

The odd 360 game even runs native 1080p.

[thetrailbuilder]

only proper 1080p games are xblA games, simple games little detail

halo 3 is 640p, read the back of the box it will say 720, 1080i and 1080p, its the same with most of the xbox games upscaled, thus the black bands on the tv screen

[keyserni]

only proper 1080p games are xblA games, simple games little detail

halo 3 is 640p, read the back of the box it will say 720, 1080i and 1080p, its the same with most of the xbox games upscaled, thus the black bands on the tv screen

Virtua Tennis 3 runs at native 1080p on the 360. Loads of games for both consoles are upscaled and down scaled depending on the tv and settings used and both systems have games that run resolutions that are far lower than the standard quoted.

[thetrailbuilder]

if it says 720p, 1080i/p on a ps3 game its exactly that, on xbox its in the region of 640p and upscaled, and VT3 not the most ground breaking game ever

[penguinni]

http://www.makeyougohmm.com/xbox360-1080p-games/

[keyserni]

if it says 720p, 1080i/p on a ps3 game its exactly that, on xbox its in the region of 640p and upscaled, and VT3 not the most ground breaking game ever

Some 360 games are even lower than 640p such as PGR3 which only got to 600p but your saying that all 360 games run at 640p which is untrue and you still haven't provided any proof. Plenty of games for the PS3 run nowhere near the resolution listed.

[mprules]

LOL at the black bands comments RE: upscaling, also do you have a list of native 1080p games for the PS3?


last time i checked GTA IV for ps3 had a lower native res than the 360

[thetrailbuilder]

lol GTA IV runs teribble on both consals

no not many native 1080p games on ps3 yet, most the psn games are, few are coming
god of war 3 current build is running at 1080p 60fps
final fanasty demo is 1080p 30fps(final build 60fps and they havnt started to dev the xbox version yet) the DEMO was 5gig btw
Gran tourismo 1080p 60fps
Lair 1080p
killzone 2 native 720p
uncharted 720p

this is getting boreing

[mprules]

Gah i give up.

PS3 is better im off to play Gears of war.

[penguinni]

What weight is a PS3?

[thetrailbuilder]

What weight is a PS3?

6lbs i think lol, lightens your wallet though