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MTBrider
March 30-2005, 10:51 PM
Local DH personalities, businesses and Forestry Commission Scotland are all working together to create a downhill centre in the Scotish borders, and they've all acknowledge that the MTB playgrounds don't just benefit the local riders and bike businesses.

http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/articlepics/emmaredbull.jpg

The MTB projects bring in a lot of bikers, tourists who are not short of a bob or two (MTBing is not a cheap hobby) and more importantly are not afraid to spend it with local businesses.

Forestry Commission Scotland's recreation manager for the Borders, Alex MacLennan is keen to build on the growing reputation that the Tweed Valley has for its mountain biking: "The whole project has been a real partnership affair. Our overall aim is to create a centre that will draw many more riders to the area and this in turn will have positive spin offs for the Borders economy."

All of these recent developments in the Scottish, Welsh and English MTB projects, many of which are being driven by local forestry agencies, contrast sharply with Northern Ireland: Our forest agency (Forest Service NI) (http://www.forestserviceni.gov.uk/home.htm) is presently attempting to wash it's hand entirely of recreation in our forests by handing that responsibility to local councils, more here (http://www.pcgamesonline.com/mtbr/showthread.php?t=946).

When questioned "off the record" after recent forestry meetings senior Forest Service staff voiced support for mountain biking in NI, however after several requests for an official update to their position, no such responce has been forthcoming. It's up to each person to draw their own conculsions to this silence.

The full article, taken from www.bikebiz.co.uk regarding the DH centre in scotland is as follows:

On 9-10th April, Red Bull riders Gee Atherton of the UK and Swiss downhill champion Claudio Caluori will take the official first ride down the Red Bull Project Downhill at Innerleithen in the Scottish Borders.

The new black-graded downhill track was built by local trail builder Richard Hamilton. He previous worked on the trails at Glentress, where Hub in The Forest is based.

Former mountain bike pros Emma Guy and Tracy Brunger from The Hub In the Forest have put together plans for five new downhill tracks at the venue. The new routes will be graded from blue, taster downhill trails through to competition black-graded trails.

A revamped transport system to shuttle bikers up to the top of the tracks is also in preparation and in the interim The Hub will be using lorries to transport the DHers to the top of the course.

Guy said: "The long term plan for development of the Red Bull Project Downhill site is to bring the tracks and services up to a world class level. We believe there is the potential here to create one of the best downhill and freeride locations in the world."

The plans not only include the development of a new trail network, but also permanent timing systems, Freeride areas, as well as improved services at the site including bike rental, spares and catering.

Bloom
March 31-2005, 09:07 AM
Lucky them. Why can't our FS see the potential.

timH
March 31-2005, 09:15 AM
StevieD and the lads saw some of the new project on their recent road trip, by the sounds of it, it is going to be pretty massive. We're not jealous at all!

Steveb
March 31-2005, 09:36 AM
Honestly this is getting beyond a joke, NI FS are fast becoming the laughing stock of the UK's forest agencies, even the bloody media has now stopped attempting to be apease them and have started telling it like it is, ie- FS NI need to seriously re-think they're entire approach to managing our forests.

DAVEN247
March 31-2005, 02:27 PM
guys i admit i havent been to any of the current meetings on said subject. this is due to the only transport i own being of the two wheeled person power variety.

All excuses aside, it is very evident from info posted on this site that the FS have a different agenda to the other FC's in UK. I suggest pushing this onto a bigger stage. Its quite obvious that meetings are designed to appease us with promises. Perhaps puuting or views to greater UK bodies. Im ignorant to such bodies but there must be some way of raising this an issue with M.P.s etc.

John_O
March 31-2005, 02:50 PM
I was in Scotland last week and rode at Dalbeattie, Mabie, Glentress and Innerleithen. Everyone is a winner with the trails over there; the bikers are happy and the local economy is well chuffed. Northern Ireland could benefit from a similar set-up to what Scotland have.

Mjb
March 31-2005, 03:12 PM
guys i admit i havent been to any of the current meetings on said subject. this is due to the only transport i own being of the two wheeled person power variety.

All excuses aside, it is very evident from info posted on this site that the FS have a different agenda to the other FC's in UK. I suggest pushing this onto a bigger stage. Its quite obvious that meetings are designed to appease us with promises. Perhaps puuting or views to greater UK bodies. Im ignorant to such bodies but there must be some way of raising this an issue with M.P.s etc.

FS having really had an open meeting for MTB'ers, the round of meetings that they recently held was for Public Consultation of their proposals. CAAN held a meeting last night which was specifically about the development of mtb trails in NI, FS might possibly do the same so as to detail their current views/options on the development of mtb trails in NI forests. The FS aren't the only ones who manage public land here, what has your local council developed for cyclists where you live. There are a few small bmx tracks here and there but little else, maybe it's time we asked our locally elected councillors and MP's what they are going to do for us, there is an election coming up soon, this might be a good time to ask them.

Aaron p
March 31-2005, 03:27 PM
where would you fina an address to rite to the north down council?

timH
March 31-2005, 03:39 PM
google => north down council => result (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=fr&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=north+down+council&spell=1)

DAVEN247
March 31-2005, 03:46 PM
Man after my own heart MJB. Let them sweat over it after all its their job to appeal to all sections of the community.

We have a cycle path just a couple of meters from my place. route 93 i think. Its not bad for a quiet run with my better half but no Shore or trail provided by the council, FS or anybody like that. Cavehills close and woodburns not to far but im always heartfeard of blasten into someone.

Rick
March 31-2005, 09:31 PM
And meanwhile back in sunny NI - at a local Forest Service meeting they get their heads around to discussing mountain biking -

nah - no one would come to NI to mountain bike - there are not enough people here to warrant any decent trails

If we stop them for long enough it will all go away... so we can go back to sleeping till we get our pensions....

F**k em why would anyone want to go out on a mountain bike its dangerous - you might get hurt

... they might put in a claim (editors comment - from this website it is obvious lots of mountain bikers end up in casualty)

How will we harvest all those cra**y trees that we planted in the bog 30 years ago?

I tell you what people want is - flat easy wide boring forest roads!!!



Yeh right - meanwhile the ostrich continues to stick its head in the sand...

mickd
April 01-2005, 03:51 PM
Im ignorant to such bodies but there must be some way of raising this an issue with M.P.s etc.

DAVEN, you want to speak to Ian Pearson MP, Minister for Agriculture and Rural Development who oversee the Forest Service.

However you might also want tell a few other people about the situation:

Barry Gardiner MP, responsible for the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Investment. Their remit covers tourism and the NITB are supportive of trail development.

Angela Smith MP, responsible for the Department of the Environment, Department of Culture, Arts and Leisure and the Department of Health, Social Services and Public Safety.

While these departments have e-mail contact addresses, I would suggest writing directly to these ministers through the Northern Ireland Office (http://www.nio.gov.uk/index.htm).
(Northern Ireland Office, 11 Millbank, London, SW1P 4PN).

andyh
April 01-2005, 11:35 PM
If you want to contact Ian Pearson directly his contact details are here

email (http://politics.guardian.co.uk/person/contactdetails/0,,-4116,00.html)

probably best not to phone but an email might be good, he will at least get an idea that there are some concerned mountain bikers.

gor
April 02-2005, 07:25 PM
yeh but the thing is there isnt really anywhere to compare in size with the forests/mountains of wales and scottland. cant remember where but i remember hearing that n.i has the smalles %of forestry in europe which is not good

Reac Photography
April 02-2005, 11:14 PM
personaly i think there is nothing wrong with getting the funding and turning half of tolymore/mournes into a mountain bike mecca. just look at what england,scotland and wales have that we dont.peolpe from hear travell over to them places quite alot because there is so much to offer,why cant t/more etc be included,it has the potential!

Races could be held there for all riders wheather they be xc,dh or dirt so alot of tourism is being brought in.could even get it on the map of the DH world cup and other world cups for that matter.

Stevie ;)

Steveb
April 03-2005, 10:56 AM
yeh but the thing is there isnt really anywhere to compare in size with the forests/mountains of wales and scottland. cant remember where but i remember hearing that n.i has the smalles %of forestry in europe which is not good
European average is 30% forestation. UK (Ex. NI) 10%. NI 6%.

On this front however I think FS have done a good job, 100 years ago it was less than 1%.

mickd
April 03-2005, 03:45 PM
yeh but the thing is there isnt really anywhere to compare in size with the forests/mountains of wales and scottland.

Do you need a massive forest or mountain to make a long trail that's only 12 inches across?

kenny
April 04-2005, 12:15 AM
The total area of Northern Ireland is 14,160 sq km (5,467 sq mi), of which 628 sq km (242 sq mi) is inland water.
Source: Encarta (http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761571415/Northern_Ireland.html#endads)

Therefore there is 812 sq km (314 sq mi) of forests at 6%. Taking the inland water to be mainly Lough Neagh and Upper and Lower Lough Erne, then there is 1.3 times as much forest as water.

Now look at Northern Ireland (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&ukwidth=289&ukheight=301&scale=2000000&lang=&overviewmap=NIR_over&db=NIR&g.x=197&g.y=63) . 1.3 times the area of those loughs is a feckin' hell of alot to mtb in.

Come on FS, for feck sake!